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hate_Fakes 34M
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11/6/2019 5:59 pm
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When we hear the date 92 most of us automatically think of Columbus sailing the ocean blue!



HOWEVER............On November 7, 92 a great stone fell of the , triangular in shape, charred, the color of metallic ore, accompanied by crashing thunder and lightning.” near Ensisheim an Alsatian town. This errant space rock—touched down on firm ground in a wheat field following its protracted journey across an inhospitable expanse of space. It is the oldest meteorite impact with a confirmed date on record, and has become famous for its dramatic fall from the heavens, an event that was witnessed by onlookers and recorded for posterity by writers like the Italian priest Sigismondo Tizio.



"At this point there has to be mention of the immense portent which was seen this year in Germany: for on the seventh of November 7 [92], near the city of Ensisheim and the village of Bauenheim above Basel, a great stone fell of the , triangular in shape, charred, the color of metallic ore, and accompanied by crashing thunder and lightning," Tizio said in his History of the Sienese. "When it had fallen to earth it split into several pieces, for it had traveled an oblique angle; to the amazement of all, indeed, it flattened the earth when it struck." S Tizio



A is said to have found the impact site first, attracting a crowd of awed spectators. In an age when comets, shooting stars, and other celestial phenomenon remained unexplained, the appearance of the meteorite was quickly attributed to divine intervention. Naturally, everyone wanted a chunk of the rock that God had deemed fit to chuck at Earth. Any superstitious reservations they might have had about the "thunderstone" or "firestone" as some took to calling it, did not prevent them from breaking off pieces to take home as souvenirs. Some slices were also saved to be sent to dignitaries, like Cardinal Piccolomini, who later became Pope Pius III.



King Maximilian I of Austria, who happened to be passing through Ensisheim on his way to war with France, also stopped by when he heard about the godly rock. He took a piece for himself and, demonstrating a wonderful obliviousness of cosmic context, declared that this meteorite was definitely a sign that his army would defeat his enemies. For what it's worth, he was right, and his army went on to quash the French invasion of his territories. However, this rebuff was not permanent, and Ensisheim shifted back and forth between nations over the centuries, and now lies back within French borders.



"The meteorite was fixed to the [church] wall with iron crampons to prevent it from wandering at night or departing in the same violent manner it had arrived," according to Erik Gregersen's Outer Solar System. "It resides in the town of Ensisheim today, although visitors in the intervening centuries chipped off all but 56 kilograms (0 pounds) of its original 7-kilogram (280-pound) mass."



hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/6/2019 6:06 pm

- Clear with a 60% chance of precipitation. Winds NNW at 10 to 14 mph (16.1 to 22.5 kph). The overnight low will be 17 °F (-8.3 °C).


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/6/2019 6:08 pm

I was down in the ravine cutting up and clearing more of that crappy mess when it started snowing.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/6/2019 6:09 pm

I pulled a large limb out and up to the shop to cut up.


hate_Fakes 34M
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11/6/2019 6:10 pm

The wood is so water soaked it won't be burnable till next year even put under cover.


SwishNSwallow2 31M/34M  
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11/6/2019 6:49 pm

We have never heard about this part of 1492. That is a huge meteorite! What was the size of the crater it created? Incredible! Columbus missed "God's chunking the rock to the Earth" by sailing the oceans blue for Isabella!


SwishNSwallow2 31M/34M  
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11/6/2019 6:56 pm

    Quoting hate_Fakes:
    - Clear with a 60% chance of precipitation. Winds NNW at 10 to 14 mph (16.1 to 22.5 kph). The overnight low will be 17 °F (-8.3 °C).
chance of sowers tonight here as well.

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SwishNSwallow2 31M/34M  
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11/6/2019 6:57 pm

    Quoting hate_Fakes:
    I was down in the ravine cutting up and clearing more of that crappy mess when it started snowing.
the snow will be starting for us pretty soon as well!


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/6/2019 7:34 pm

    Quoting SwishNSwallow2:
    We have never heard about this part of 1492. That is a huge meteorite! What was the size of the crater it created? Incredible! Columbus missed "God's chunking the rock to the Earth" by sailing the oceans blue for Isabella!
It was just stated it "flattened" the ground where it landed. They might not recognized a " Impact crater" . Might also note that the meteor came in at an angle whereby the stone might have glanced and bounced.


hate_Fakes 34M
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11/6/2019 7:36 pm

We have about an inch of snow blowing around here tonight.


hate_Fakes 34M
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11/6/2019 7:38 pm

    Quoting SwishNSwallow2:
    the snow will be starting for us pretty soon as well!
The sow here was hitting me like little BBs while I tried to work so I took it inside.


SCBrooke 24M
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11/6/2019 7:57 pm

    Quoting hate_Fakes:
    It was just stated it "flattened" the ground where it landed. They might not recognized a " Impact crater" . Might also note that the meteor came in at an angle whereby the stone might have glanced and bounced.
it bounced around for sure. I need to go back and read again, like three or four different countries had possession at one time, not to mention it being "carved" away for gifting. Great piece of history Bret!


hate_Fakes 34M
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11/6/2019 8:00 pm

    Quoting SCBrooke:
    it bounced around for sure. I need to go back and read again, like three or four different countries had possession at one time, not to mention it being "carved" away for gifting. Great piece of history Bret!
Yes... Alsace has changed hands several times in the last couple hundred years. About 2/3 chopped away.


SCBrooke 24M
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11/6/2019 8:01 pm

    Quoting hate_Fakes:
    The wood is so water soaked it won't be burnable till next year even put under cover.
cut me some being on the ignorant side slack, but this piece of wood you wrestled with, in the snow, then housing it to dry, must be some top notch firewood!


hate_Fakes 34M
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11/6/2019 8:09 pm

    Quoting SCBrooke:
    cut me some being on the ignorant side slack, but this piece of wood you wrestled with, in the snow, then housing it to dry, must be some top notch firewood!
It's red elm a hardwood that burns hot for a long time. The chunk I hauled in was about 25' long and now is cut and staked up outta the boggy marsh.


Hungr4Yungr 70M
4547 posts
11/6/2019 9:14 pm

Space rocks, snow flakes and red elm limbs. You've had a busy day Bret. Thank you for posting this very interesting and mostly unknown historical tidbit about a huge meteorite.


jrodd 60M
3174 posts
11/6/2019 10:22 pm

Christpher Columbus while sailing experianced a weird phenomina akin to a possible UFO sightin on October 11th ,1492. A light perhaps mayby such so called space rock thing occured,this may be something interesting to you?


hate_Fakes 34M
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11/7/2019 1:54 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    Space rocks, snow flakes and red elm limbs. You've had a busy day Bret. Thank you for posting this very interesting and mostly unknown historical tidbit about a huge meteorite.
It made "headlines" such as they were in 1492. and the errant stone is still earth bound at this date. Colder than "F" here today more like December than November.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/7/2019 1:55 pm

    Quoting jrodd:
    Christpher Columbus while sailing experianced a weird phenomina akin to a possible UFO sightin on October 11th ,1492. A light perhaps mayby such so called space rock thing occured,this may be something interesting to you?
I've read the light incident from his ship's log and it would seem to be the first account of the Bermuda triangle.


jrodd 60M
3174 posts
11/7/2019 9:51 pm

Oo thats interesting


hate_Fakes 34M
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11/7/2019 10:45 pm

    Quoting jrodd:
    Oo thats interesting
it was a BANNER year!