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hate_Fakes 34M
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11/4/2019 6:28 pm
Guy Fawkes Day



Catholicism in England was being heavily repressed Queen Elizabeth I, particularly after the pope excommunicated her in 70. During her reign, dozens of priests were put to death, and Catholics could not even legally celebrate Mass or be married according to their own rites. As a result, many Catholics had hopes when King James I took the throne upon Elizabeth’s death in 03. James’ wife, Anne, is believed to have previously converted to Catholicism, and his , Mary Queen of Scots, was Elizabeth’s Catholic archrival prior to being executed. There were even rumors, inspired by his diplomatic overtures to the pope, that James himself would become Catholic.


King James

It soon became clear, however, that James did not support religious tolerance for Catholics. In 04 he publicly condemned Catholicism as a superstition, ordered all Catholic priests to leave England and expressed concern that the of Catholics was increasing. He also largely continued with the repressive policies of his predecessor, such as fines for those refusing to attend Protestant services.



English Catholics had organized several failed conspiracies against Elizabeth, and these continued James. In 03 a few priests and laymen hatched the so-called Bye Plot to kidnap James, only to be turned in by fellow Catholics. Another related conspiracy that year, known as the Main Plot, sought to James and install his cousin on the throne. Then, in May 04, a handful of Catholic dissidents—Guy Fawkes, Robert Catesby, Tom Wintour, Jack Wright and Thomas Percy—met at the Duck and Drake inn in London, where Catesby proposed a plan to blow up the Houses of Parliament with gunpowder. Afterwards, all five men purportedly swore an oath of secrecy upon a prayer .



other conspirators would later join what became known as the Gunpowder Plot. But although Catesby was the ringleader, Fawkes has garnered most of the publicity over the past 400-plus years. Born in 70 in York, England, Fawkes spent about a decade fighting for Spain against Protestant rebels in the Spanish-controlled Netherlands. He also personally petitioned the king of Spain for help in starting an English rebellion against James. According to writings in the Spanish archives, Fawkes believed the English king was a heretic who would drive out his Catholic subjects. Fawkes also apparently expressed strong anti-Scottish prejudices.



By 05 Fawkes was calling himself Guido rather than Guy. He also used the alias John Johnson while serving as caretaker of a cellar—located just the House of Lords—that the plotters had leased in order to stockpile gunpowder. the plan, Fawkes would light a fuse on November 5, 05, during the opening of a new session of Parliament. James, his eldest , the House of Lords and the House of Commons would all be blown -. In the meantime, as Fawkes escaped by boat across the River Thames, his fellow conspirators would start an uprising in the English Midlands, kidnap James’ Elizabeth, install her as a puppet queen and eventually marry her off to a Catholic, thereby restoring the Catholic monarchy.


Guy Fawkes

On October 26, an anonymous letter advising a Catholic sympathizer to avoid the State Opening of Parliament alerted the authorities to the existence of a plot. To this , no one knows for sure who wrote the letter. Some historians have even suggested that it was fabricated and that the authorities already knew of the Gunpowder Plot, only letting it progress as an excuse to further crack down on Catholicism. Either way, a search party found Fawkes skulking in his cellar around midnight on November 4, with matches in his pocket and 36 barrels of gunpowder stacked next to him. For Fawkes, the plot’s failure could be blamed on “the devil and not God.” He was taken to the Tower of London and tortured upon the special order of King James. Soon after, his co-conspirators were likewise arrested, except for four, including Catesby, who died in a shootout with English troops.


Fawkes and his surviving co-conspirators were all found guilty of treason and sentenced to death in January 06 by hanging, drawing and quartering. A Jesuit priest was also executed a few months later for his alleged involvement, even as new laws banned Catholics from voting in elections, practicing law or serving in the military. In fact, Catholics were not fully emancipated in England until the 19th century.



After the plot was revealed, Londoners began lighting celebratory bonfires, and in January 06 an act of Parliament designated November 5 as a of thanksgiving. Guy Fawkes festivities soon spread as far as the American colonies, where they became known as Pope . In keeping with the anti-Catholic sentiment of the time, British subjects on both sides of the Atlantic would burn an effigy of the pope. That tradition completely died in the United States by the 19th century, whereas in Britain Guy Fawkes became a time to get together with friends and family, set off fireworks, light bonfires, attend parades and burn effigies of Fawkes. traditionally wheeled around their effigies demanding a “penny for the Guy” (a similar custom to Halloween trick-or-treating) and imploring crowds to “remember, remember the fifth of November.”



Guy Fawkes himself, meanwhile, has undergone something of a makeover. Once known as a notorious traitor, he is now portrayed in some circles as a revolutionary hero, largely due to the influence of the 1980s graphic novel “V for Vendetta” and the 2005 movie of the same name, which depicted a protagonist who wore a Guy Fawkes mask while battling a future fascist government in Britain. Guy Fawkes masks even cropped up at Occupy Wall Street protests in New York City and elsewhere. “Every generation reinvents Guy Fawkes to suit their needs,” explained historian William B. Robison of Southeastern Louisiana University. “But Fawkes was just one of the flunkies. It really should be Robert Catesby .”



hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 6:30 pm

Think I will dig out V for Vendetta to watch tomorrow night!


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 6:31 pm

Watch V for Vendetta or rent it... well worth the $$


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 6:32 pm

Drying out again here with judt 1-2 days till we are done harvesting.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 6:33 pm

We are to take a major plunge in temps this week.


Hungr4Yungr 70M
4547 posts
11/4/2019 6:43 pm

Very interesting history of Guy Fawkes. I never knew what he was all about. Now I know "the rest of the story". Thank you, Bret.


Hungr4Yungr 70M
4547 posts
11/4/2019 6:45 pm

The plunge in temperature that you expect later in the week is to happen here tomorrow night, before we pass it on to you. Tomorrow will deposit 2 to 3" of snow. Good luck with the harvesting, JD. I hope you manage to beat the weather.


Hungr4Yungr 70M
4547 posts
11/4/2019 6:48 pm

I had a deliciously tender, slow cooked, chick's chest with baked potato and fresh tomato for supper tonight. I needed something warm before the onslaught of the cold Arctic air coming all the way across the pole from Siberia.


SCBrooke 24M
1432 posts
11/4/2019 7:19 pm

Interesting! I wonder if our Catholic friend Teddy is aware of Mr. Fawkes. We need to quiz him! lol


SCBrooke 24M
1432 posts
11/4/2019 7:24 pm

finally becoming fall around our neck of the woods! yes!!

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SCBrooke 24M
1432 posts
11/4/2019 7:28 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    I had a deliciously tender, slow cooked, chick's chest with baked potato and fresh tomato for supper tonight. I needed something warm before the onslaught of the cold Arctic air coming all the way across the pole from Siberia.
Roger, that sounds awesome. We had a family favorite, stuffed acorn squash with three cheese garlic bread toasted on the grill!


Hungr4Yungr 70M
4547 posts
11/4/2019 9:08 pm

    Quoting SCBrooke:
    Roger, that sounds awesome. We had a family favorite, stuffed acorn squash with three cheese garlic bread toasted on the grill!
Brooke, your meal sounds very interesting. I love squash and garlic bread too. Southerners have a much different diet than us Northerners.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 9:30 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    Very interesting history of Guy Fawkes. I never knew what he was all about. Now I know "the rest of the story". Thank you, Bret.
Times have changed but Guy Fawkes changes with them


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 9:32 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    The plunge in temperature that you expect later in the week is to happen here tomorrow night, before we pass it on to you. Tomorrow will deposit 2 to 3" of snow. Good luck with the harvesting, JD. I hope you manage to beat the weather.
This is probably the most challenging year for us. The crop was good just getting it in is the hassle.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 9:33 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    I had a deliciously tender, slow cooked, chick's chest with baked potato and fresh tomato for supper tonight. I needed something warm before the onslaught of the cold Arctic air coming all the way across the pole from Siberia.
A nice big bowl of chili will soon be the order of the day.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 9:34 pm

    Quoting SCBrooke:
    Interesting! I wonder if our Catholic friend Teddy is aware of Mr. Fawkes. We need to quiz him! lol
We'll have to see what he has to say here.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 9:36 pm

    Quoting SCBrooke:
    finally becoming fall around our neck of the woods! yes!!

    [image]
Partly cloudy. Winds variable at 6 to 9 mph (9.7 to 14.5 kph). The overnight low will be 26 °F (-3.3 °C).Mostly sunny with a high of 40 °F (4.4 °C). Winds variable at 4 to 7 mph (6.4 to 11.3 kph).
Tuesday
Partly CloudyPrecipitation: 10% This is soon to depart from us.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 9:37 pm

    Quoting SCBrooke:
    Roger, that sounds awesome. We had a family favorite, stuffed acorn squash with three cheese garlic bread toasted on the grill!
I love squash but my carnivorous counterpart doesn't


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/4/2019 9:38 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    Brooke, your meal sounds very interesting. I love squash and garlic bread too. Southerners have a much different diet than us Northerners.
Ask him about breaded deep fat fried turkey gizzards !


TMulidis90 29M
965 posts
11/5/2019 4:39 pm

    Quoting SCBrooke:
    Interesting! I wonder if our Catholic friend Teddy is aware of Mr. Fawkes. We need to quiz him! lol
hahahahahaha Mr. smarty pants Brooke! Yes, I am aware of "Mr. Fawkes". He was covered extensively in my Catholic Schooling!


TMulidis90 29M
965 posts
11/5/2019 4:41 pm

Bret, somebody snatched your pictures. It wasn't me, I have been absent for many days and attempting to catch up!


jacederveloy86 33M
1115 posts
11/5/2019 5:17 pm

Don't mess with a Queen....especially if it involves religion....


jacederveloy86 33M
1115 posts
11/5/2019 5:19 pm

    Quoting TMulidis90:
    Bret, somebody snatched your pictures. It wasn't me, I have been absent for many days and attempting to catch up!
uh uh......I saw that sunset post.....


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/5/2019 6:15 pm

    Quoting TMulidis90:
    hahahahahaha Mr. smarty pants Brooke! Yes, I am aware of "Mr. Fawkes". He was covered extensively in my Catholic Schooling!
Sister Mary Holywater drilled this lesson deeply into your psyche!


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/5/2019 6:16 pm

    Quoting TMulidis90:
    Bret, somebody snatched your pictures. It wasn't me, I have been absent for many days and attempting to catch up!
I've got them back in order now ... I just hope you drop by again to view them and my response.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/5/2019 6:18 pm

    Quoting jacederveloy86:
    Don't mess with a Queen....especially if it involves religion....
Liz was most sensitive on that topic and found being burne at the stake the best remedy for the malady.


hate_Fakes 34M
6665 posts
11/5/2019 6:19 pm

There........... all returned to normal.... the childish shit persists ... I need to put a penis oon every pic so they stay glued in place.