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OnDaFence 31M/39M
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2/10/2019 8:32 pm

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Ecce Homo


(Ecce Homo ("Behold the Man"), Antonio Ciseri's depiction of Pilate presenting a scourged Jesus to the people of Jerusalem. )

That infamous quote comes from Pontius Pilate, the fifth prefect of the Roman province of Judea from roughly 26-36 AD, who is known from the New Testament, in which he is the man responsible for passing final judgment on Jesus. History probably would have forgotten him were it not for that singular event.



This is the Caesarea Stone discovered in 1961 describing Pontius Pilate as Prefect confirming the Biblical record. The ONLY pierce of solid historical record until a few days ago.



Professor Gideon Forster from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, a short time after the Six-Day War in 1968-69, led a dig in the acropolis of Herodium. as part of preparations to open the site to visitors,”. Numerous pieces were excavated and placed into storage. Fifty years later those findings were handed over to a team that works at the site, led by Dr. Roee Porath, also from Hebrew University.



Herodium, near Bethlehem, was built by Herod the Great, a king within the Roman Empire, and is the site of his tomb. (One of his sons, also named Herod, was king in Jesus’ time.) The site is controlled by Israel and is claimed by Palestinians, says the New York Times.



Pilate just did not spread his name around. He was allowed to place his name on various items but refrained. In fact his name could have been placed on the coins minted in Judaea but he chose to inscribe them with Tiberius Caesar. Minting them with the Greek inscription ΤΙΒΕΡΙΟΥ ΚΑΙϹΑΡΟϹ (Tiberiou Kaisaros; ‘of Tiberius Caesar’).”



That's why when an Ancient Ring Found in Israel may have Belonged to Pontius Pilate the archaeological and religious communities stood UP and took notice. The ring was found in a room filled with bits of glass, shards of pottery, arrowheads, coins, and other items.



The ring was one of thousands of items found. The famous name on it was discovered after a thorough cleansing, when it was photographed by a special camera at the Israel Antiquities Authority labs. The inscription on what was apparently a stamping ring included a picture of a wine vessel surrounded by Greek letters translated as saying “Pilatus.” It is said by archaeologists to be only the second artifact from his time ever found with his name.



“We think it implausible that a prefect would have used a simple, all-metal, copper-alloy personal sealing ring with a motif that was already a well-known Jewish motif in Judea before and during his rule,” says a report in the Israel Exploration Journal.



“But in practice, we have a ring inscribed with the name Pilate and the personal connection just cries out,” Roi Porat, one of the authors of the report, told The Times of Israel. The name Pilate was a family name and was not common at the time.

OnDaFence 31M/39M
26917 posts
2/10/2019 8:39 pm

Some find it unlikely that the ring was his as these types of simple rings usually belonged to soldiers and lesser officials, not to someone as wealthy and powerful as a prefect.


OnDaFence 31M/39M
26917 posts
2/10/2019 8:40 pm

But in reality was Pontius Pilate a simple common type man????


OnDaFence 31M/39M
26917 posts
2/10/2019 8:41 pm

He didn't flaunt his name all over the place...........


OnDaFence 31M/39M
26917 posts
2/10/2019 8:45 pm

Much like my dad who has a small narrow plain gold wedding band... the only ring he wears. Decide for yourself.... This to me is the ring of a simple soldier doing his job for the Empire and his Emperor.


Hungr4Yungr 69M
3778 posts
2/10/2019 8:49 pm

Another very interesting historical tidbit from the wisdom centre of Iowa. A lot of questions about Pontius Pilate will remain unanswered for many more years.


OnDaFence 31M/39M
26917 posts
2/10/2019 8:59 pm

    Quoting Hungr4Yungr:
    Another very interesting historical tidbit from the wisdom centre of Iowa. A lot of questions about Pontius Pilate will remain unanswered for many more years.
Pilate mentioned in a report to Rome there was an earthquake which damaged an aqueduct that he had to repair... could that be the earthquake that rolled the stone away? This single item will cause a multitude of questions for future generations.


bychance4709 56M
1412 posts
2/11/2019 4:39 am

So when it shows up on ebay are you are going to put a bid on it??


calbren 51M  
6 posts
2/11/2019 7:01 am

There are a lot of theories and supposition here. I don't mean just your post...but the whole subject of early Christianity, the life (and death...and the dubious resurrection) of Christ. People want to believe. The Bible is, for the most part, fables. The Gospels weren't even written till 400 years after the death of Jesus. Even then they were relying on word of mouth. Like the game where you whisper something to someone who, in turn, whispers it to someone else. By the time it comes full circle, it is so convoluted it has nothing to do with it's original meaning. I call myself a Christian because it is a FACT that there was a man named Jesus....who's message was basically to love thy neighbor. He was a man ahead of his time, but a man nonetheless. People are not conceived immaculately. People do not rise from the dead. And alas, people do not heed words of wisdom. But the conjecture will continue. The fact is, all this happened over 2,000 years ago. It wasn't videoed, or reported by CNN, or read in the daily news. No one knows what REALLY happened back then and no one ever will.


OnDaFence 31M/39M
26917 posts
2/11/2019 11:50 am

    Quoting bychance4709:
    So when it shows up on ebay are you are going to put a bid on it??
I will try to but I will probably get knocked out in the first few rounds.


OnDaFence 31M/39M
26917 posts
2/11/2019 12:34 pm

    Quoting calbren:
    There are a lot of theories and supposition here. I don't mean just your post...but the whole subject of early Christianity, the life (and death...and the dubious resurrection) of Christ. People want to believe. The Bible is, for the most part, fables. The Gospels weren't even written till 400 years after the death of Jesus. Even then they were relying on word of mouth. Like the game where you whisper something to someone who, in turn, whispers it to someone else. By the time it comes full circle, it is so convoluted it has nothing to do with it's original meaning. I call myself a Christian because it is a FACT that there was a man named Jesus....who's message was basically to love thy neighbor. He was a man ahead of his time, but a man nonetheless. People are not conceived immaculately. People do not rise from the dead. And alas, people do not heed words of wisdom. But the conjecture will continue. The fact is, all this happened over 2,000 years ago. It wasn't videoed, or reported by CNN, or read in the daily news. No one knows what REALLY happened back then and no one ever will.
The first written documents probably included an account of the death of Jesus and a collection of sayings attributed to him. Then, in about the year 70, the evangelist known as Mark wrote the first "gospel" -- the words meaning "good news" about Jesus. The Gospel of Mark probably dates from c. AD 66–70, Matthew and Luke around AD 85–90, and John AD 90–110. Despite the traditional ascriptions all four are anonymous, and none were written by eyewitnesses. This ring is a solid, tangible, piece of an historical even. There are enough pieces of the "true cross" from the Crucifixion to build a nice two story house scattered across Europe. Faith is not a measurable sort of commodity, however, this ring, gives the existence of a Procurator of Rome sent to do a job a bit more credibility. I have several coins issued by Pilate with Tiberius's name on them from close to the year of the crucifixion along with several silver "temple coins" those supposedly used in the 30 pieces of silver paid to Judas Iscariot . These pieces don't add to or detract from my faith but mark an element of the historical event. In a way I am glad CNN didn't cover the crucifixion for the simple reason Pontius Pilate would be juxtaposed with President Trump. There is probably a purpose for Christianity to survive 2000 yearsand the mighty Roman Empire unfortunately it will occur as the last learning experience of our lives leaving us unable to tell anyone the validity of our faith in God, Jesus, and one Pontius Pilate Procurator of Rome.


BJ69ormore 62M
22 posts
2/16/2019 7:57 am

interesting to say the least.


OnDaFence 31M/39M
26917 posts
2/16/2019 7:20 pm

I can't over stress the importance of the find,